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By Us With Us

By Us With Us was the initiative of a group of individual activists who came together in late 2016. The name By Us With Us was drawn from a model developed by Martin Naughton (RIP), who envisaged the emergence of a new national Disabled Person’s Organisation (DPO) to strengthen the IL movement. The concept involved the exploration of a merger between the Center for Independent Living (CIL) and Áiseanna Tacaíochta (ÁT). However, after the passing of Martin a new path was required and twelve individual activists gathered in the CIL office on the 26th of November 2016 to to progress the idea of honouring our past Independent Living (IL) colleagues and friends.

By Us With Us as a group agreed to hold a commemorative day to celebrate all that had been achieved within the IL movement, largely in part to those we have lost, and to generate a sense of solidarity within the movement going forward. The event was to be a mixture of celebration, music, memories and remembrance and was later titled ‘In Their Names In Our Time’. Over the course of 2017 a steering committee was formed and the group worked toward an event date of the 23rd of September 2017.

The By Us With Us Committee was supported by the Center for Independent Living during the course of it’s work in 2017. The Committee was comprised of:

  • Eileen Daly, Chairperson
  • Nial O’Baoil, Director
  • John Doyle (RIP)
  • Hubert McCormack
  • Audrey Brodigan
  • Michelle Gaynor
  • Sarah Fitzgerald
  • Roisin Dermody

In Their Names In Our Time

On the 23rd of September 2017 212 people with disabilities, their supporters, family, and friends gathered in the Round Room of the Mansion House in Dublin. The invitation only event was billed as the first of its kind to be organized for people with disabilities only. Poignantly, it reflected on the tireless contributions of seven disability advocates: Martin Naughton, Donal Toolan, Michael Corbett, Ursula Hegarty, Florence Dougall, Dermot Walsh and Joe T Mooney.

Input by Hubert Mc Cormack for “In Their Names – In Our Times”
To ensure the event was as inclusive as possible the day was organised as a meeting in friendship and affection both in memory of those disability leaders that have died while being equally conscious of the need to reawaken a peoples disability movement suited to current times. The mixture of music, testimony, speakers and debate was designed to allow for consideration of our IL history, our current reality as the sole country in the EU yet to ratify the UNCRPD, and most importantly the task of regenerating a new form of leadership capable of advancing our call for true equality.

The names in the title which we refer to here today: “In Their Names – In Our Times”, are the names of people with disabilities who were very important and significant players within the disability movement and beyond, who with others, were responsible for shaping and transforming the way in which we as people with disabilities in our time, can now live in this country today.

These names were the names of my colleagues.  They were the names of my mentors.   They were the names of my peers.  They were the names of fellow activists.  And most importantly to me, they were the names of my friends, because I personally knew six of the seven people whom we remember here today.

I’ve known Ursula and Martin since childhood.  We grew up together in a residential setting in the northside of Dublin.  We had the same disability, shared many similar life experiences and became involved with various disability issues and support groups, which led to the establishment and growth of many of the services which as people with disabilities can now enjoy today.

Joe T and Florence were also extremely close friends of mine for over 30 years.  We met through our involvement with Muscular Dystrophy Ireland, an organisation which myself, Ursula and Martin had joined in 1980.  Here again, because of similar life experiences, a special relationship unfolded between all five of us and a unique network of support and fabulous friendships were born.  Although we didn’t know if at the time, this in turn would ignite an initial spark which would eventually lead to the establishment of many of the services which we enjoy today.

And it was through my involvement with the Irish Wheelchair Association that I got to know Dermot and Donal in the mid 1980’s, and it was probably a similar passion for rights and equal opportunities for people with disabilities that was the common denominator which led to these lasting friendships.

Although our paths may have crossed briefly on one or two occasions, Michael is the only individual of the seven people whom we are honouring and remembering here today that I sadly never got to know personally.  This was obviously due to geographical reasons as we both lived on opposite sides of the country.  But Michael was as passionate and dedicated to the struggle to enhance the quality of life for people with disabilities, especially in rural Ireland.

Collectively, for all of the seven people whom we are remembering here today, I believe that it is extremely important that we remember how all of their actions, their battles and their sacrifices brought about significant changes for the benefit of all people with disabilities who live in this country today and in our time.  Their names must never be forgotten. Their values and views must always be etched and engraved in our times.

  • We must never forget the battles they fought
  • We must always ensure that what they fought for will remain intact and progress
  • We must never forget the sacrifices they made
  • We must never take for granted the services that we enjoy today
  • We must keep our fallen friends dreams and aspirations for the future alive
  • We must continue in their footsteps and remain focused to ensure that people with disabilities in this country and elsewhere, can live a life equal to that of or non-disabled counterparts
  • We must never forget the seven people whom we remember today.

In Their Names – In Our Times.   By Us / With Us

Friends Remembered

Ursula Hagerty
Ursula was a friend for 40 years.  She died back in 2006. She was a fellow founder of Centre for Independent Living here in Ireland and her background was similar to mine in that we grew up together in a residential setting in Baldoyle, North Dublin. Like me, Ursula’s involvement in the movement was greatly influenced by close friends who considered Independent Living to be the best way of progressing forward.  Ursula had “Fight” and from an early age, she believed in equal treatment for all.  Breaking down barriers within the walls of institutions, fighting for simple privileges which many would now take for granted, and ensuring a good quality of life for all were just some of the issues which Ursula had to fight for before addressing her own personal needs, which saw her secure full-time employment, buy a house, marry and live life to the full.

Martin Naughton
Martin was like my big brother.  I knew him since childhood.  I always looked up to Martin. He always encouraged me to get involved in projects which would inevitably lead to bigger and better things!   Martin took a genuine interest in anyone he met. The first real project which we worked on together was the setting up of the INCARE programme, a new venture at the time that would lead us to becoming significant players in the establishment of the Independent Living Movement here in Ireland in 1992.  We started this process in the late 1980’s.
Martin was a tireless campaigner for disability rights and the road we travelled together over a 40 year period was an amazing voyage.   There are too many stories to tell, but all of these journeys which we embarked on will always remain with me.

Donal Toolan
I first met Donal in the late 1980’s and I remember him as being a very entertaining, enjoyable and political person to be in the company of. I was in awe at how articulate he was back then and we all know how he developed and used this talent to push for rights and equal opportunities for disabled people through his work on the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities and his involvement with the establishment of the Forum of People with Disabilities and the Centre for Independent Living, to name but a few.
Donal was a very creative and talented journalist and actor and I had the pleasure of seeing him perform in many shows over the years (one of which I played a part in, which was nerve-wrecking but very enjoyable). I have many happy memories of Donal and one which I will always cherish was of when he officiated at the launch of my CD “Look Deeper” in December 2003 (along with our good friend Martin).  Donal brought out the fun in all of us. I will always remember his wit, his one liner’s and his impersonations.  He was a tonic for us all.

Florence Dougall
Florence (Flo) was a close friend for over 30 years. We met at an MDI meeting in the Ormond Hotel in Dublin in 1984. The fact that we too had the same disability and had very similar life experiences up to then, was probably one of the main reason why we hit a chord which sparked of a friendship that was to last for the next 32 years.
Florence was a true advocate and supporter of disability rights and she channelled all her energies into ensuring that organisations such as MDI and CIL would continue to be the unique and member led organisations that they are today.  She was one of the first group of people with disabilities in Ireland to secure the services of a Personal Assistant (PA) back in the early 1990’s as part of the “Operation Get-Out” programme.  Flo embraced this new lifestyle with passion and she always shared her experiences and encouraged others to do likewise.
As a classy lady, Flo treated everyone in the same way as she would like to be treated herself. She had very high standards and if something wasn’t right she would have no difficulty in letting you know this, one of her many great qualities.

Joe T Mooney
I first met Joe T back in 1986 when we both travelled to Holland (by rail and ferry) to represent Muscular Dystrophy Ireland (MDI) at a European Youth Camp. This was a fabulous adventure and proved to mark the beginning of a friendship that would last for almost 30 years.  We became close friends, we worked together and he provided great support and advice.
Joe T worked and campaigned tirelessly for over 30 years to support and enhance the quality of life for people with disabilities. To many, Joe T was a mentor, a peer, a disability activist and a true friend.  He was also a man with a real and unique positive vision for change and promoted real “hands on” action to help improve the quality of life for people with disabilities.  Disability issues always remained high on Joe T’s agenda because he understood that we may need assistance at any time, day or night, and therefore he insisted on being available 24/7 to MDI’s membership (and beyond).  He never switched off!

Dermot Walsh
I first met Dermot on a personal development course run by the IWA which we both attended in 1985.   Dermot was also a fellow founder of Centre for Independent Living (CIL) here in Ireland.  He was a unique individual and was passionate about his fight to be treated in the same as everyone else and he embraced the Philosophy of Independent Living full on.
He worked for CIL from 1993 to 1998, and campaigned tirelessly for an Independent Living Fund.   He was one of the first individuals to travel the route of successfully having his funding for his Personal Assistants (PAs) transferred to a service provider of his choosing, which would have been viewed as a progressive strep in helping to put the issue of direct payments for PAs on the political agenda. Dermot pursued lots of battles over the years to challenge inequalities and fought endlessly for equal treatment for all.

Michael Corbett
Although our paths may have crossed briefly on one or two occasions, Michael is the only individual of the seven people whom we are honouring and remembering here today that I sadly never got to know.  This was obviously due to geographical reasons as we both lived on opposite sides of the country.  But Michael was as passionate and dedicated to the struggle to enhance the quality of life for people with disabilities, especially in rural Ireland. He was a founder of the Mayo Centre for Independent Living and focused all of his energies for over 20 years on lobbying Government agencies and stakeholders for more recognition for people with disabilities, particularly in rural Ireland, which too often is neglected and overlooked.

A video capturing the event can be viewed in the CIL Video resources section here: www.dublincil.org/cil-video-resources/

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